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25 Responses to Gold, Silver, and the Bear Market. VisionVictorymanifesto.com

  1. loveguitars says:

    Hey V,

    Don’t …
    Hey V,

    Don’t forget to get into the Bear Funds when the DOW hits 10,250

  2. 2hard21 says:

    @high5flyer

    I …
    @high5flyer

    I agree.

    .
    The collapses of Greece and Spain will create a domino effect with the collapses of the likes of Italy and Germany soon to follow. The dollar will benefit from the resulting decline in the Euro, but the world will soon realize that the debt problems are just as bad in the UK and US.

    When governments are spending a record amount at a time when their tax revenues are declining at a record amount, the math doesn’t work.

  3. BMWg84 says:

    The past does not …
    The past does not typically replicate itself in the future

  4. high5flyer says:

    I am playing …
    I am playing musical chairs and got DRR in November. I don’t see the USD being destroyed when there could be like you said, “A Lehman Bros.” moment in the Euro Zone. Things again will play out like 2008 where the market crashes and the dollar rallies. After this the Keynesian government officials will play the relfation game. Again we will see a large increase in the stock market. It then will be the US turn for and USD will go down at the same time stocks go down. Decoupling will happen.

  5. JurkoffJay says:

    Who do you make …
    Who do you make money VisionVictory?

    Do you have a job?

  6. POSSUMTOHIDE says:

    Thank you for your …
    Thank you for your insight! God Bless!

  7. Numonic7 says:

    The material that’s …
    The material that’s in Federal Reserve Notes and computers that are used for electronic derivatives/credit and debit transactions are also made from the earth. Gold doesn’t come out of the earth in the form of 1 ounce coins, it took man to form it that way, the same way Federal Reserve Notes are formed from materials from the earth(cotton and linen) and computers too. I just don’t like the argument that gold & silver are made from the earth and Federal Reserve Notes/Dollars aren’t, it’s wrong

  8. trboj says:

    If u cant find a …
    If u cant find a job. Do what i did. Go by a gold pan. And go find free gold (money). Its everywhere. Ive found 3/4 oz in a week.

  9. PontVedra says:

    Spoke with an …
    Spoke with an employee just last wk and it appears the banks are calling in debts that are delinquent by garnishing bank accounts.Bottom line, the customer was delinquent on a couple loans;therefore the bank just simply helped themselves to their savings and checking to bring those accounts current.Apparently, it’s in the fine print ppl;the banks r scraping for every red cent and they r taking no prisioners-Lesson:close bank accounts anon! It’s legal if you signed when opening that account!Uh oh

  10. CASTILLOM1 says:

    Ive been hearing …
    Ive been hearing reports of a trading desk on the floor of the NY Federal Reserve office. Combine this with High Frequency Trading Computers and all of a sudden the manipulation becomes clear.

  11. singlespeak says:

    Gold under $1100 is …
    Gold under $1100 is a steal.

  12. christo930 says:

    Why are you against …
    Why are you against UE? You say yourself there are no jobs out there, so do you want people to starve? How about we cut down the military, foreign aid, corn sub, ethanol sub and all the other nonsense programs first? I can’t stand when people complain about the gov but then go straight to the most vulnerable people for where cuts should be instead of all the waste.

  13. christo930 says:

    I think the next 1- …
    I think the next 1-4 months is going to be a downturn across the whole market. When the market closes below 10k, I think the support is going to drop. I think we are going to see deflation over the next several months with with stocks and commodities going down, down, down.

  14. thompk12 says:

    Remember DOW 4500? …
    Remember DOW 4500? What happened?
    You keep hyping people up. What you don’t understand is the gov’t is fighting you. Guess who is losing?

  15. jokertim777 says:

    Thank you for the …
    Thank you for the discussion, but I think you have said enough for me to realize that my time would be better spent talking to someone else. Best of luck to you.

  16. nmreich says:

    Here’s a video …
    Here’s a video about the 40% SHORT position on silver by JPM.

    watch?v=1ZGuacM_4oQ

    Here’s another one where CFTC admits MASSIVE short positions on silver:

    watch?v=OzphZY429G4

  17. nmreich says:

    I realize that we …
    I realize that we were talking about gold, but I just thought I’d talk for a minute about silver as well since they go together nicely.

    Did you know that the primary factor in the downfall of Rome was a trade deficit which led eventually to HYPERINFLATION? That’s right. The Romans devalued their currency by diluting the silver content so that they could make more coins and buy more goods. It worked for a while, but then they had to keep on doing it. Eventually their coins couldn’t buy stuff.

  18. 3dbeing says:

    Daniel, you have …
    Daniel, you have often spoke about the Tea Party. Are you also a Sarah Palin fan as well?

  19. nmreich says:

    jokertim,

    Don’t …
    jokertim,

    Don’t forget the MONSTROUS short positions on COMEX silver by a couple of mega-banks (JPM).

    IThe silver price plummeted this week which provides an excellent opportunity for some of these banks to cover their shorts. In fact earlier this week we saw (it think it was) 25,000 short contracts liquidated. It puzzles me though why this happened the day or two before the price went down.

    Gold:Silver ratio is at nearly 70, it should be 10-15, silver is vastly UNDERVALUED.

  20. sdndeath says:

    Gold created by GOD …
    Gold created by GOD? , Hold on I have to call Goldman Sach’s they do god’s work you know :-)

  21. jokertim777 says:

    @ nmreich,

    Thank …
    @ nmreich,

    Thank you for providing a basis for your thought that gold is under valued. However, I don’t believe it is useful to use the Dow as an aggregate indicator of the price of real goods (partly because I agree we don’t have a free market).

    “The Golden Constant,” by Roy W. Jastram is widely accepted as the definitive empirical study of gold’s purchasing power (in real goods).

    Is the Dow a good constant non-manipulated, not bubble prone yardstick by which to value gold (or vice versa)?

  22. Avigadro says:

    People that are …
    People that are trying to maximize profits and time this by holding US dollars until the last second are playing with fire.

    You just know that there are going to be some bagholders when the dollar tanks.

  23. nmreich says:

    Jokertim,

    Research …
    Jokertim,

    Research the Dow:Gold ratio. This ratio always seeks equilibrium at 1:1. But because we do not have a free market, gold has been suppressed by a factor of 9.52.

    Currently it takes 9.52 ounces of gold to buy the Dow. A 1:1 ratio today would put gold at $9500/oz … or the Dow at $1064.

  24. jokertim777 says:

    I can tell you what …
    I can tell you what I’ve read from people who have studied gold and its purchasing power in history.

    Does that make me “the authority,” because I can read?

    “The Golden Constant,” by Roy W. Jastram is widely accepted as the finest empirical study of gold’s purchasing power. Its available online for free.

    To be clear, I’m not saying that your theory of the world reserve currency and market manipulation cannot be valid (it might). I’m asking you to present some data to back up your assertion.

  25. powergirl901 says:

    Yes, Americans …
    Yes, Americans throw them out and then two years later, puts them back? Don’t people ever get tired of this hamster race they’re participating in?
    Meanwhile the powers that be simply rip off
    everybody around the world with no problems.